Full Transcript: Jamarlin Martin Discusses Thinking For Yourself And Shorting American Leadership On GHOGH Podcast
In episode 70 of the GHOGH podcast, Jamarlin Martin goes solo to discuss the covid-19 crisis. He talks about the failed leadership of Donald Trump, Andrew Cuomo, CDC Director Robert Redfield, Surgeon General Jerome Adams, and New York Mayor Bill de Blasio.
Jamarlin discusses his forecast that at least 30 percent of U.S. deaths will be African Americans. This episode touches on the $6 trillion bailout, a 2003 CIA report covering bioterrorism, and “designer bugs,” and the differences between Asia vs. the U.S. approach to covid-19.
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Listen to GHOGH with Jamarlin Martin | Episode 70: Jamarlin Martin Jamarlin goes solo to discuss the COVID-19 crisis. He talks about the failed leadership of Trump, Andrew Cuomo, CDC Director Robert Redfield, Surgeon General Jerome Adams, and New York Mayor de Blasio.
This is a full transcript of the conversation which has been lightly edited for clarity.
Jamarlin Martin: You’re listening to GHOGH with Jamarlin Martin. We have a go hard or go home approach as we talk to the leading tech leaders, politicians and influencers. Let’s GHOGH!
Robert Redfield: “… Basic hygiene products that we talked about, but I would not encourage anyone to change their plans at this point, based on what the epidemiology is here in Florida. They should enjoy Disneyland. They should enjoy the rest of Florida.”
Jamarlin Martin: The title of this episode, “Thinking For Yourself And Shorting American Leadership”. This episode is about the covid-19 crisis. Let’s dive right in. So in January, I was watching the developments of the coronavirus in Wuhan, China. I talked about it a couple of times on my Twitter feed and the American authorities and leaders, they knew about covid-19 in January because they had started deliberating on flight restrictions. It’s not like the American leadership did not know about what was going on in China and the potential risk associated with this. They knew that Wuhan was a big flight hub in terms of flights going out to Italy, flights going out all throughout Europe, direct flights to, I believe, New York and the Bay area, essentially that , Wuhan, there’s a lot of travel activity out of Wuhan. So the American officials, I believe, they knew that there was a high risk that if you had a problem in Wuhan, this thing could explode. And so the context here is not that, we’re not approaching the leadership or any leadership in terms of the leader has to be perfect. The leader can’t make mistakes. We’re way beyond that in terms of, if you’re an elected official and you have the responsibility to protect lives, you have the responsibility to provide guidance, you want to err on the side of safety. You want to be on the safe side and it’s okay if you go on the safe side and you’re wrong, but if you take a risk and you gamble with the lives of people, then you should be held accountable.
Jamarlin Martin: Let’s talk about who are the American officials who were offering guidance or a lack of guidance as covid-19 developed across the United States. The first person, you heard him, in the opening of the show is the CDC director, Robert Redfield out of Atlanta, Georgia. So, Robert Redfield, he said in early March, he had a press conference and he said that it was okay to go to Disney World. And shortly after that, the officials at Disney World, they shut it down. They didn’t shut it down because of the CDC. The CDC is telling people, this is a low risk threat. Go ahead and enjoy your life. Go ahead and go to Disney World. He said Disneyland, but he was talking about Disney World in Florida. As you know, Orlando is the number one tourist destination in the United States. Okay. It’s a travel hub right there in Orlando, similar to Wuhan. And he was telling people in early March that it’s okay to take your family in Orlando. There was a man who may have taken that advice and he went to Disney world and he later died coming out of L.A. You know, you have the director of the CDC in early March telling people that it was okay to go to Disney world. That’s a red flag. When I saw this, it did not make any sense. I was reading, you know, what was going on around the world? This thing was an obvious big risk for America. And because of the history of Black people in America with the American leadership, it wasn’t shocking. It wasn’t surprising that, whether you go from incompetence or a perverse politics or something more nefarious that nothing would surprise me from American officials. So if I hear Robert Redfield saying it’s okay to go to Disney World. Right there, I’m just seeing, it’s not a surprise, for me.
Jamarlin Martin: You have Robert Redfield, you have the Surgeon General Jerome Adams, what he said in February, you can go back on his Twitter feed and look at it. He said, he’s not worried about covid-19. This is the surgeon general talking, of the United States. He says he’s not worried about covid-19. He said, masks are not effective. Don’t go buy masks. And he said, he’s worried about the flu, not covid-19. So this is your surgeon general. So, you’re thinking that the health officials in the United States, they’re going to be thinking more like lawyers in terms of they’re thinking about the downside risk. They’re thinking about what could go wrong. They’re thinking about you gotta be extra, extra safe with something like this, because the scientists, the medical officials have never seen anything like this in their lifetime. So you’re going to err on the side of playing it safe, but you see the CDC director, Robert Redfield, you see Jerome Adams, the U.S. surgeon general, they’re playing it down. They’re acting like it’s no big deal. Okay. And of course the virus heavily moves against them and the people.
06:02 — Jamarlin Martin: So when the leaders are wrong, people can die. People can lose 30 percent of their lungs, 30 percent lung impairment for some of these cases. So even if you survive, you could have permanent lung impairment. Of course covid-19 attacks the lungs. And what I mentioned in February was we know that our people, Black America, we have a relatively high count of diabetes, of asthma, high blood pressure. So all of these pre-existing conditions sets us up for a slaughter. Okay. So if there are, let’s say a million deaths in the United States, whether it’s a million or 100,000 deaths, I’m expecting 30 percent of those deaths to be among Black people here in America. That our mortality rate is going to be much higher because of the systemic white supremacy and the structure of America in terms of where you’re going to the hospital or what doctor you’re going to see and what Becky and John are going to go see in terms of their ability to get a test kit or their doctors to have masks. And your doctors may not have the proper gear. So these disparities are going to be magnified. Some of it is going to be based on the health infrastructure of America. And some of it is going to be how our people are positioned in terms of or poor health essentially. And so there’s a lot of reasons for that. But the bottom line is that we are not structured well for something like covid-19, in terms of our health conditions, relative to the population, and then also the health capacity and resources. They’re not going to be properly distributed. They’re going to be mal-distributed. They’re going to be distributed in a way that disenfranchises us. That was what I was thinking about in February. And of course, we’re starting to see that play out in places like Albany, Georgia, and New Orleans.
Jamarlin Martin: We have Jerome Adams. We have Robert Redfield. Let’s talk about New York, where the big problem is right now. So in New York, the Democrats have crowned Andrew Cuomo, a new prophet and new hero. But as some of you may know who’ve been following me and you know what I’ve been talking about, know that Andrew Cuomo, over two months in February and March, like Robert Redfield, like Jerome Adams, he was telling New Yorkers to go out there and enjoy your lives. Okay. He repeated this. I saw the video at least five times where on multiple occasions or instances, Andrew Cuomo was telling New York, go out, go party, go enjoy your lives. Just like Robert Redfield saying go to Disney World. Okay. So you see Andrew Cuomo, Robert Redfield, Jerome Adams and mayor De Blasio saying, go party, go out there, go enjoy your life, this is nothing. And so look at the consistency of the American leadership, all being wrong-footed. What they’re going to say is that there was no way to know, or, Trump didn’t tell them this, Trump didn’t declare an emergency or whatever, but you already know what Trump is. Okay. You should already know that Trump was not offering the proper guidance for America.
10:06 — Jamarlin Martin: That that was obvious. That should have been obvious. But what it’s telling you, I believe what it’s telling you is that the American leadership, they have all the things from before, but they’re flirting with the end of the empire in terms of, that’s where we are, whether it’s a Democrat or Republican is that these leaders are confused. They can’t see, they can’t recognize actual facts and they can’t see clearly. So you have Andrew Cuomo and Mayor De Blasio setting New York up for slaughter. They set traps by telling the people go out, go party, go to the bars, go enjoy your life. And so now New York is looking like Lombardy, Italy, that had a big problem outside of China, a bigger problem than China, although the numbers out of China are suspect. But if we just go by the reported numbers, Italy, particularly the Lombardy region, is a bigger problem than China.
Jamarlin Martin: The leadership, including Donald Trump, who was saying that everything is low risk. This is just like the flu. You had Fox News beaming out to most likely 40 percent or so of the country that this thing was a hoax, it’s just like the flu. So the people, the leadership is so confused, so ignorant. so politicized, that they have set the people up for slaughter. Okay. They have set the people up for sickness. And so there were warnings out there about that. You’re underestimating this thing, why don’t you play it safe? And so the mind, the American mind, they’re thinking about money first, and this is not a Trump thing. Trump obviously is a massive representation of this, but Andrew Cuomo, when he was pressed about whether to lock down New York, where you restrict New Yorkers from spreading this to other states, Rhode Island, Florida, they’re trying to restrict New Yorkers from coming into the States because of course covid-19 is on steroids in New York. De Blasio and Cuomo told everybody to go out and catch the damn thing.
Jamarlin Martin: You have States trying to push back New Yorkers from coming into their state, spreading it, which is what China did. Okay. China said, Hey, if you guys are in Wuhan, stay put, we’re going to try to contain this thing right there. So what Cuomo said was stocks, the stock market would collapse if you restrict the New Yorkers from doing business and going from state to state. So we have to keep the borders open. He said it’s a legal issue, but separate from the legal issue, in terms of the constitutionality of it. But separate from that, what Cuomo said was this would really hurt the economy and the stock market. Between Trump and the new Democratic party prophet Andrew Cuomo, you have two leaders thinking about the collapse of the economy. What they’re telling you is that they’re willing, 50,000, 25,000, 250,000, 1 million, that this psychotic mind in the American leadership, they may be willing to burn a million bodies, 300,000 Black bodies. They may be willing to burn those bodies to hold up the system and the economy, because it’s so fragile. And I didn’t say that this is a Republican or Democrat thing. This is an American thing. This is the sick mentality that is governing the United States. We’re going to talk about a report, “CIA Warns of Future Bio Weapons”. Okay. The CIA was told, there was a group of scientists who warned the CIA, that there were bio weapons out there in 2003 that could discriminate based on age, like the movie Scarface, where he was sent on a mission to blow up the car of the target, but he couldn’t do it. He couldn’t blow up the kids, although he was about that life and he was about killing, but he just couldn’t blow up the kids, couldn’t do it. And ultimately that cost him his life.
14:54 — Jamarlin Martin: But in this report, the CIA turned it into a report called “The Darker Bioweapons Future”.You can read about this on Moguldom.com. Obviously you can Google it and see the report, it’s called “The Darker Weapons Future” in 2003. So in that report, the scientist supposedly shared this information with the CIA and the CIA formed conclusions. Of course you’re always skeptical, but this is the surface story. So the scientists came together, looked at this stuff and they said, this is the bio weapons capability going back to 2003, you can look it up directly on the CIA website, just Google — the darker bioweapons future. So in 2003, the CIA say there are bioweapons that can discriminate by age. If you don’t want to go after the kids, you can program the bug to go after older people, okay? You want the bug to go after older people? Well, they said that you can do that in 2003. This is what the scientists and the CIA said in 2003. So like they have designer drugs, the scientists, and then the CIA is saying that they have designer bugs. Covid-19, of course, there are views that it could be, I’m not saying it is, a designer bug. But essentially “The Darker Bioweapons Future” says that the designer bugs in that day, 2003, could discriminate by age. It could discriminate by pre-existing condition. And they said that it could be timed. So, you could program the bug or design the bug where it’s dormant and it’s activated more at a later time. So you may be catching the bug, but they want, according to the scientists and the CIA, the bug can be in your system where you’re spreading it, but it’s not really activated in your system right away.
Jamarlin Martin: So the report said that that was possible. So these three things were possible — discriminate by age, discriminate by pre-existing conditions, I want to go after people who are already weak, I want to go after old people. And I want the bug to chill out a little bit, let it spread a little bit. And then it’s activated. They said it could be a delayed activation. They could program the bug with a delayed activation, according to the scientists and then the CIA. So, in 2003, if the highest levels of government in the United States, they thought that someone could possibly start doing bioterror. They knew about it. They documented it in 2003, and they documented the sophistication and the innovation with the bug design. They said that this stuff was already out there in 2003. So the question is, how did America get in the position where it doesn’t have enough N95 masks? America doesn’t have enough bed capacity. America does not have enough healthcare workers. America does not really have a plan to deal with a bioterror attack. So you say that, what if this was a bioterror attack on America? Right? And so, you have a massive defense budget. Where was the defense plan? Where were the resources. Why wouldn’t America be ready for an attack? Where are the resources to defend America from a bioterror attack? Because you people have documented it in 2003. So one reason why America would not be ready for a bioterror attack or something like covid-19 that mirrored a bioterror attack, that one reason you wouldn’t have defenses for it, or you wouldn’t have a plan to be activated, and you wouldn’t have masks and things that some of the other countries have, is because America is morally bankrupt.
19:40 — Jamarlin Martin: If you have politicians across the spectrum, Mitch McConnell and his wife focused on making millions and millions of dollars, you have Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein together worth over a $100 million in California. You have politicians focused on making money. You’ve got politicians focused just on power. Over time, even from a low morality state, there’s a degradation of the political leaders where the political leadership, they get more corrupt over time. So if the political leadership are getting more and more corrupt, and I would press the Democrats more than the Republicans, because even if the Democrats get in power, like they were when Obama was elected, if you’re not going to bang hard on corruption, all this stuff is going up in smoke. When you have politicians getting into power and thinking about the next book that they’re going to write, the next big deal, or am I going to be worth $300 million or $500 million, I’m going to leverage my political position to develop all these networks in Hollywood and with the elites and with Wall Street, that while I’m in office, I’m going to fertilize my career where I can be worth a $100 million, $200 million, $300 million. Okay. So if there’s that type of corruption at the top of America, then you’re going to have drunk leadership.
Jamarlin Martin: You’re going to have confused leadership who don’t have the right sober mind to see what’s going on and to protect the country. And so when I say that American leadership should be shorted. Of course, if you want to bet against a stock or bet that one currency is going to fall. The technical term and finance is you’re going to short that instrument. You’re going to short that company. You’re going to short that currency. The American leadership, when you look at all the fumbling, all the misleadership, all the lies. This is a leadership, it should be clear that it should be shorted. Now, the sister mayor in New Orleans, where I have a lot of family, she said that she let the people go out in late February to Mardi Gras because Trump didn’t warn her. No fool. You are Black. When you think about how you got to this country. Okay? And you think about the historical relationship with Black people and the United States, your posture should be, you do not trust it. Okay? That doesn’t mean you’re paranoid. It doesn’t mean you go crazy, but you have to have your eyes wide open. You already know what Trump is over there. You already know that you don’t know what type of cards he’s playing with. You don’t know who he’s working with. You don’t know what agenda this guy could be working. You can’t blame Trump for letting the people go out and Mardi Gras and let the people get sick. That is not leadership. There were facts on the ground where you could have said, I’m not taking a chance. I know I’m going to be blamed. I know I possibly could. I’m not going to get elected again, or they’re going to throw me out, but I just can’t put the people out there with so many unknowns. I can’t do it. You’ve got to find another leader to go with this program. I cannot support this. The people may hate me for closing down Mardi Gras. Maybe it turns out to be a hoax or it’s not a big deal, but I’m not going to put that risk on myself. I’m not going to put that risk on my conscious, okay?
Jamarlin Martin: You can’t blame, particularly if you’re Black, you should not be trusting the American government. It doesn’t matter whether it’s Democrat or Republican. You cannot trust it as Public Enemy said in the 90s, you can’t trust it. And so how can you isolate the truth from the noise? So many different media people and agendas and people looking for money. One thing that I recommend in terms of thinking for yourself is you need to be looking at international media. You need to be viewing other viewpoints because the American viewpoint has become so greedy, so corrupted, so hegemonic that you’re going to need different perspectives. And so if you’re tapping into different perspectives in terms of what’s coming out of Asia, what are their viewpoints on covid-19? What’s coming out of Italy? What’s coming out of Nigeria? How are different countries looking at this pandemic? And so when you can look and compare the different viewpoints, you can form your own conclusion thinking for yourself. You can’t be Black in 2020 and say, Trump told me to send the people out the Mardi Gras to go party and act a fool and get covid-19 in the lungs. You can’t do that in 2020, we have too much information. You’re going to have to get sober. The government, the U.S. government, based on where we are in history is on its last legs, is drunk. You see in the leadership, Jerome Adams, Dr. Robert Redfield, Andrew Cuomo, De Blasio, all these leaders are confused and they don’t know what to tell the people. A good leader is going to warn the people before it happens. You’re not going to praise the person for playing down the pandemic and telling people to go out. And then when the people are caught in a fire and they’re in a hospital on respirators or sharing a respirator with five other patients, then they get to be the hero.
25:51 — Jamarlin Martin: See the historical enemy of Black people in America, they get to be the firestarter and the fireman or firewoman. So they set the people up for slaughter, and then they come and they start acting like a human being and they get the praise. Now they’re prophets. It’s real sickening how the people are dependent on the viewpoints of what’s coming out of their leadership. You’ve got to know that this country is morally bankrupt. Okay? If you can’t see that, you need to be reading. We’re living in a day an hour, where if you’re not reading and following the right information and studying what’s going on, it could be the difference between life and death. As Shabazz the Disciple said in the 90s, he said, “Death be the penalty if you’re following these American leaders”. This could mean that you may have 30 percent lung impairment. This may mean that you may not be able to go to the funeral because in Albany, Georgia, the pastor who did a funeral for a covid-19 death, he got sick and many people at the funeral are getting sick.
Jamarlin Martin: So you got to be thinking soberly, you’re not waiting for the American leadership to tell you a motherfucking thing. You’re not waiting for the American leaders to tell you nothing. You have to understand that if you play this stuff wrong, if you’re real loose and reckless, that you may not be able to go to a funeral, even if you’re willing to drive in terms of checkpoints that could be coming and the potential that you’re going to catch it at the funeral. So, now you have to be thinking like that in terms of these officials, the American leadership does not know everything about this yet. And even if they did that, that doesn’t mean they’re going to tell you the right thing at the right time. What I recommend is think for yourself. You’re going to have to elevate your curiosity about this pandemic and what’s going on around the world. And then you need to beam that message on texts, on email, on phone calls. You need to beam it out into the community that this stuff is serious. You need to go into a prevent defense, okay? Until you can see things clearly. So right now with the drunk leadership, it’s hard for the people to see things clearly.
Jamarlin Martin: I want to move on to the bailout. The Democrats went along with the program in terms of the so-called $2 trillion bailout, but the bailout is really $6 trillion. So the legislation allocates 2 plus 4. $4 trillion is going to be in partnership with the federal reserve, in terms of lending facilities. And of course those lending facilities, they’re going towards massive companies. Okay. The type of scale that the federal reserve is dealing with, that’s going to be going mostly to elites. Okay? So the bailout, the number that we’re working with is a headline number from Congress of $2 trillion, but the real number, according to Larry Kudlow, and you can look it up online is right there, but the MAGA official Larry Kudlow, he’s clear. He said, this is a $6 trillion bailout. We have to understand that the bailouts in 2008 with Obama and 2020 with Trump and Nancy Pelosi and Schumer, that these bailouts are baking in inequality in the structure. So there’s so much money sloshing around in a bailout in terms of companies and elites they’re on the ropes, they took a lot of risks. They were using billions to buy back their stock. There’s no real cushion left if something happens, they can’t go another 30 days. They have been milking the company for profits and using the money to buy back the stock, just like 2008, they’re taking a lot of risks. They’re trading, they’re taking risks. And then the government comes and bails the elites out. You have to understand that trillions are going to elites to bail them out. Trillions are going to elites.
30:37 — Jamarlin Martin: And most of it is going to be conducted at the federal reserve or with the federal reserve. You’re going to have a former Goldman Sachs banker, just like you had in 2008, quarterbacking the bailout. So the treasury secretary in 2008 was a former Goldman Sachs banker with a big network. Then you have a Goldman Sachs banker heading the treasury department, Steven Mnuchin now. So these Goldman Sachs bankers seem to be at the right place at the right time when these crisis hit. So the person who’s quarterbacking the extra $4 trillion with the federal reserve is a former Goldman Sachs banker. I think that we have to look at it from a positive perspective. Obviously, the body bags, people getting sick, millions of people being laid off or furloughed, this is going to be massive carnage, particularly among our people. I’m expecting 30 percent of those deaths to be among Black people here in America. Our mortality rate is going to be much higher. There’s going to be massive carnage on the negative side health wise and financially. If there’s something that is good about covid-19 or potentially good, it is that people see that this whole system is based on fraud. This whole system is based on elitism and essentially white supremacy in terms of how do you hold a fragile system up. And at this point, the only way to hold this house of cards, this fragile house of cards, where they make you seem like they’re so strong and this and that, the only thing is holding up this system is bailouts and money printing at the fed. So what that’s telling you is that if the system needs a bailout every 10 years, a bigger bailout every 10 years, that if a crisis hits, you need a big bailout and you need to print a lot of money.
Jamarlin Martin: What that is telling you is that you’re very late in the cycle of the American empire, meaning that there’s so much debt in the system and the people are waking up and they have more information as time goes by. They’re less willing to put up with the same old shit. So this time on the bailout, the Republicans knew that, we bailed out people at the top last time. Obama, everybody said we had to do it, people at the top and let the stuff trickle down. They knew going into this bailout, they were smart enough. Right out the gate, the Republicans said we got to send checks to regular people. So they know that the bailout has to be different each time, because so many people are wiser. They’re more informed. So they knew that even people on their side were not going to take the same old bullshit bailout. And so let’s send the people little $1,200 checks. And then we can take almost $5 trillion and bail out our network, our friends and big business who were taking a lot of risk with dividends and buybacks, buying back their own stock. They were taking risks and we got their back. If a company is out there taking risks, a cruise line, if they’re using billions, instead of putting it to the side and they’re buying back their stock, Trump is saying, I’m gonna find a way to bail out the luxury cruise lines. That’s a priority. Although the cruise lines are not even American companies, so they’re not going to be in this particular bailout. This is a requirement. The business has to be based in the United States. And then even if the cruise lines were based in the United States, there’s another problem because most of the workers on the cruise ships are not American workers.
Jamarlin Martin: If there’s something good that comes out of the covid-19 crisis, it’s that America at the end is going to be made naked, where you could see all the flaws, you could see the corruption. You could see that this nation, it has always been corrupt, it has always been rigged for elite, but the people, doesn’t matter what political affiliation, Republican or Democrat, both sides know that this stuff is peak swamp, that this stuff is corrupt. You had congresspeople getting intelligence reports or confidential reports about the virus going out there and selling down their million dollar portfolios. Look up how many congresspeople are millionaires, that they’re selling down their stock portfolio after they get some privileged information about how bad this stuff is. So the corruption is being flushed out, meaning that you could see it. MAGA has done a good job of flushing out who America is, where Barack Obama, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, they would never step to America and tell the beast what it is. They would never tell America about its demons. Its demons of corruption, white supremacy, and greed. They, they would never make America uncomfortable because of the political consequences and their personal career and financial consequences. Okay? So they’re not going to tell America, you’re corrupt or white supremacy is endemic to this system, this structure, because Cory Booker, Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, Jim Clyburn, they’re never going to tell America, they’re not going to tell the establishment and elites what it is.
36:43 — Jamarlin Martin: So what’s happening is MAGA gets in power. Okay? And MAGA’s gonna show what it is. Covid-19 pops up. Covid-19 is going to show how the healthcare system and the whole priorities are sick. MAGA is gonna show you. So if Obama is going to tell you that white supremacy is not endemic, or I think he would say, corruption is not endemic. He may feel boxed and he’s going to mess up his business deals, or he gonna mess up his politics. He’s gonna mess up his network. You’re gonna mess up his relationship with Mark Zuckerberg. But these things that are happening, they’re showing the people when the leadership won’t tell the truth to the masses in terms of how bad a situation America is in, particularly for Black people, they won’t speak up for Black, that if the leadership won’t speak up and tell the truth real loud, to save the people, to build up the people, while you’re having current events, MAGA and covid-19, is doing a lot of work because the people after covid-19 are going to be like, “What the hell is this? I thought America was this. I thought America was that. No one told me about the real America.” This stuff is being flushed out to the surface. You can’t hide it. When the people rejected Rev. Wright and his wise words, America and everybody is going to be coming back to that, that this country is a wicked country. It’s a corrupt country. It’s a white supremacist country. Okay. So if the Obama, Cory Booker, Kamala Harris leadership, if they won’t confront the demons and they just want to deal with the symptoms, they don’t want to go to the root of the problem, current events are going to come in and pull it out because the leadership is so weak. MAGA, covid-19 is going to force the hand in terms of people awakening to this system, to the wickedness of the system, to the corruption of the system.
Jamarlin Martin: The final note I want to make, there’s a prediction by NYU professor Richard Epstein, who people connected to Trump, leaning on his model for what’s going to be the body count in terms of deaths from covid-19 in America. And so his position is that he wants the students to be in class. They’re young, they’re relatively low risk from dying. They should be in class. So he is saying that there’s a big overreaction and people should really be out there conducting business, just moving more conservatively, but he wants to so-called reopen or restart the economy. And he thinks this stuff is overblown, and you’re going to get less than 50,000 deaths on his model. And so people connected to Trump have been circulating this. And it’s part of the crowd that says that statistically, you guys are going crazy because there’s not even going to be more deaths from covid-19 than the generic flu. So again, you have people looking to downplay and say that this is over-hyped. Part of his thesis is that the models that are out there, that’s showing a lot more deaths in terms of potentially up to a million of body count in the United States from covid-19, he’s saying that these models don’t factor in behavioral and cultural changes, meaning that the people start to tighten up over time and so that dramatically slows the growth in fatalities.
40:39 — Jamarlin Martin: So his model shows that there’s going to be less than 50,000 deaths, more likely than not. I listened to a podcast that he was on and he mentioned Wuhan. And he said, look at China in so many words. He said, look, once they started to tighten up, look how fast they were able to contain the growth and spread in China once they tightened up. And so this is most likely what would happen here. One big flaw in Richard Epstein’s model and reference to China is that number one, the Chinese numbers are unreliable, just like in finance, the Chinese numbers, GDP numbers that come out, they’re not respected. They always land where they’re supposed to land. Right? And so the consensus is that the Chinese numbers that they put out on the GDP is that they’re manipulated or fake. Okay. So that’s the starting point. So before we even get to covid-19, the numbers, the economic numbers out of China, they’re not respected around the world. It’s not just America, but around the world, in the finance community where people are taking risk, they do not respect the China GDP numbers that are always super tight on the forecast. The forecast is 7 percent. It lands on 7 percent. So one is, before covid-19, people were suspicious of numbers coming out of China, the official numbers. Although China may show a low body count relatively to Italy, those numbers are not to be trusted from my perspective and many others, that there are reports, credible reporters out of China that they were cremating bodies 24 seven.
Jamarlin Martin: So as you know, the media is really locked up in China, but people were stinking out reports and images where they ran the numbers of the body bags in terms of the mortuaries and essentially they’re cremating bodies around the clock, according to these reports. So one, when Epstein references China, one is the relatively low mortality count is not to be trusted. That’s the first problem. Two, China intelligently locked down Wuhan. That’s where supposedly the problem started. And so China said, you cannot leave this area of Wuhan and spread this around our country. China was very intelligent in terms of containing covid-19 and they had to lock down certain areas within the country. With the United States, they are saying that Cuomo is saying that we’re not Wuhan in the United States and in New York. So we’re going to keep interstate travel. So it’s okay for New Yorkers where there’s a big problem, which is now the Wuhan of America. It’s okay for the New Yorkers to go out there and spread because of our civil liberties and potentially the law. But he’s saying that, Cuomo of course said that he was concerned about the economy and the stock market. Okay. And why he wouldn’t contain the problems in New York, within New York. New Yorkers are trying to bail out to Rhode Island to Florida. And so many believe that New York is a super spreader state, but China said, look, if there’s a big problem in a particular region, we’re locking that and you can’t get out. They appear to be successful with that strategy. So you can’t use the China model or template if you’re going to be doing something different over here in the United States.
Jamarlin Martin: So that’s another flaw with Richard Epstein’s model that he’s expecting a similar outcome with China, but you don’t want to play by the China template. Okay? You don’t want to lock up interstate travel, for whatever reason, whether it’s legal, the stock market or whatever, you don’t want to do that. So there’s going to be slippage or consequences with that decision. You want to deviate and do your own thing. So don’t expect a Chinese outcome if you’re not going to be doing it the Chinese way or something close to the Chinese way. Point No 2, China had a heavy restriction within the country on traveling. United States does not. Okay. Particularly New York, which is currently the Wuhan of America. Point three. China says that the N95 mask needs to be worn, whether you have covid-19 or not. Why is that? Because people who spread covid-19 do not have symptoms. A lot of them do not have symptoms. The bug character has you out there spreading it when you look and feel healthy. So you’re out, this is why it makes it so dangerous. You’re out there spreading it, thinking you’re healthy. So the Chinese are saying, you need to wear the mask, the N95 mask in particular, that that will slow down the spread. The United States, the CDC, the surgeon general, they have come out and said that the masks, separate from the issue of whether they have enough masks, which they don’t. They buy the masks from China. They don’t have a stockpile of masks that’s adequate for a pandemic. But even if they did have the supply and resources in the United States of masks, the officials have come out and said that masks are not effective. The general public should not be wearing masks. This is at the same time they’re telling you to go to Disney World and telling you in New York to go enjoy your life, multiple times over two months.
46:43 — Jamarlin Martin: You cannot expect a result like China’s, if you don’t want to follow the approach on masks, not just China, but in Asia, across Asia, the health community said, You need to elevate the wearing of masks in the public. You see people going to grocery stores now are still, they have to do certain things. Well, these people are going out there without masks. In Asia, and particularly in China, if you’re breaking the rules, they were slapping people. I’ve seen videos where they were slapping people upside the head, because they know that the penalty is death of not following protocol with this particular bug, with this particular virus. There’s a different point of view between Asia and the Western countries on wearing masks. So don’t expect the same result. That’s a big cultural difference. That’s a big risk mitigation difference. Most likely the Asians are right. Okay. And the Western countries are wrong and their body count is going to be wrong too. Meaning that the body bags most likely are going to pile up more or they are piling up more in no-mask-wearing Western countries who have an ego. “We don’t want to follow Asia. We don’t want to listen to Asia. Although Asia start dealing with this early, we don’t want to follow them. We want to do it our own way.” The white man wants to do it his own way. So the body bags are piling up in the Western countries. They don’t want to follow the Asian way or the Asian approach to wearing N95 masks. The people in the streets are going to have to pay if they’re listening to those officials and they can’t get the masks and it can’t distribute the masks in their own community, then the cost of the American leadership being wrong is just more body bags and lung impairment.
Jamarlin Martin: Four. China is more resource-efficient. In dealing with supposedly lower numbers. Of course the numbers are suspect, but in dealing with covid-19, China has the masks. China was building hospitals in a matter of two weeks. China has resources, masks, testing, hospitals. They marshaled the whole nation to certain areas to deal with this. The supplies, the medical supplies around the world, they come from China. The United States is not structured well to deal with the pandemic. So one, is everything is manufactured in China, including masks. China is the Mecca of the medical supplies. China’s more resource-efficient. So don’t expect a similar outcome to China. If you’re not anywhere near where China is on resource-efficiency, that includes workers, health workers. Five. In January, when China started to get a handle on this with quarantines, China moved very fast across the board. They were fanatical in terms of how fast they were moving. The United States has been moving slow. These five points shows the differences of approaches in terms of tackling covid-19. And so the spread between China and more broadly Asia, how they’re handling the pandemic and how the United States is handling it is dramatically different. And you’re seeing the discrepancy in the body bags. Okay. You’re seeing the discrepancy in the sickness, uh, because again, towards the end of the empire, and the empires of old, that the leadership has a sick ego towards the end, an elevated ego where the leaders want to do it their own way. We’re big, bad Americans. We know everything, we’re going to do it our way. We’re not following the Asian model or what’s happening. They’re dealing with it. And they were dealing with it at first. But we’re going to ignore that. We’re going to tell the people we’re going to get a China-like outcome, where we’re going to contain covid-19, but we’re not going to follow any of the principles in terms of how China and the Asian countries are dealing with covid-19.
51:12 — Jamarlin Martin: If you’re following the white man in particular and the coon handlers, the penalty in a time of crisis and before the crisis, the penalty could be death. Death could be the penalty. Lung impairment could be the penalty. And you have to be very careful with listening to the American leadership across the board, white or black. Republican or Democrat. Man or woman. In this day and hour, you have to be very careful and well-studied in terms of what’s going on. If you are tapped into what’s going on and you’re taking this very serious, you need to beam that out to your family, your friends, your community, that you need to go into a prevent defense, at least for the next 30 days. Be skeptical of what these people are telling you. You can point out lies, ignorance, drunkenness in the leadership over and over again, that these leaders are not telling you everything. And they may not. Some of them may not know everything, whatever the case is, you cannot trust them.
Jamarlin Martin: So if you are tapped into what’s going on and you’re already in a prevent defense, or if you’re about to get into a prevent defense, then beam that out to your community who may not be taking it seriously, they may not have all the information. You need to beam that out. This could potentially save lives. It is very important that you go out there and be a leader in a time of crisis. And even if people look at you crazy in terms of telling people, don’t go around grandma, don’t have people coming in and out at grandma’s house or mother or father’s or your family’s house. Instead of going to the grocery store every couple of days, use Instacart, use something else, have them leave the groceries at the front door. You don’t want to see anybody’s face in there. And in this day and hour in this time, you want to go in a prevent defense until things become clear for you. You’ve got to think for yourself in this day and hour. Let’s GHOGH!
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